[{"data":1,"prerenderedAt":259},["ShallowReactive",2],{"footer-links":3,"content-\u002Ftrinitarian\u002Frevelation-5-13":12},[4,9],{"path":5,"title":6,"type":7,"isExternal":8},"\u002Fabout","About","link",false,{"path":10,"title":11,"type":7,"isExternal":8},"\u002Fdisclaimer","Disclaimer",{"id":13,"title":14,"body":15,"description":250,"extension":251,"meta":252,"navigation":254,"path":255,"seo":256,"stem":257,"__hash__":258},"content\u002Ftrinitarian\u002Frevelation-5-13.md","Revelation 5:13: Honour for God and the Lamb",{"type":16,"value":17,"toc":240},"minimark",[18,29,42,47,57,65,69,98,132,139,148,175,189,193,196,210,214],[19,20,22,28],"h1",{"id":21},"revelation-513-honour-for-god-and-the-lamb",[23,24,27],"span",{"className":25,"dataReference":27},[26],"bible-ref","Revelation 5:13",": Honour for God and the Lamb",[30,31,32,36,37,41],"p",{},[23,33,35],{"className":34,"dataReference":35},[26],"Revelation 5"," gives universal blessing and honour to the one on the throne and the Lamb. This article considers whether the vision's language of honour, falling, and ",[38,39,40],"em",{},"proskyneō"," requires the conclusion that Jesus is God.",[43,44,46],"h2",{"id":45},"the-prophecy","The Prophecy",[48,49,50],"blockquote",{},[30,51,52,53],{},"“To him who sits on the throne and to the Lamb be blessing and honour and glory and might forever and ever!” — ",[23,54,56],{"className":55,"dataReference":56},[26],"Revelation 5:13 (ESV)",[30,58,59,60,64],{},"The throne-sitter holds the sealed scroll. The Lamb receives it because he was slain and redeemed people for God (",[23,61,63],{"className":62,"dataReference":63},[26],"Revelation 5:6-10","); then every creature honours both recipients.",[43,66,68],{"id":67},"trinitarian-reading","Trinitarian Reading",[30,70,71,72,76,77,80,81,85,86,89,90,94,95,97],{},"Trinitarians commonly read ",[23,73,75],{"className":74,"dataReference":75},[26],"Revelation 4","–5 as one worship scene. The one on the throne receives worship in chapter 4; the Lamb is then praised with the throne-sitter in ",[23,78,27],{"className":79,"dataReference":27},[26],". In ",[23,82,84],{"className":83,"dataReference":84},[26],"Revelation 5:8",", the elders “fell down” before the Lamb. The Greek verb is ἔπεσαν, from ",[38,87,88],{},"piptō"," (“fall”). In ",[23,91,93],{"className":92,"dataReference":93},[26],"Revelation 5:14",", the elders again fall and ",[38,96,40],{}," (προσεκύνησαν). This reading takes their response, together with the universal song, as including the Lamb in the heavenly worship offered to God.",[30,99,100,101,105,106,110,111,113,114,117,118,122,123,127,128,131],{},"The comparison with ",[23,102,104],{"className":103,"dataReference":104},[26],"Revelation 7:11"," strengthens this interpretation: angels, elders, and living creatures fall before the throne and worship God. ",[23,107,109],{"className":108,"dataReference":109},[26],"Revelation 19:10"," and 22:8-9 also show an angel refusing ",[38,112,40],{}," and directing it to God. Trinitarians therefore interpret the Lamb's place in ",[23,115,35],{"className":116,"dataReference":35},[26]," as evidence of his divine status. ",[23,119,121],{"className":120,"dataReference":121},[26],"Revelation 22:13"," is likewise debated in light of 22:16, where Jesus speaks. ",[23,124,126],{"className":125,"dataReference":126},[26],"Revelation 19"," portrays the victorious rider, and ",[23,129,35],{"className":130,"dataReference":35},[26]," portrays the Lamb, as sharing God's final victory.",[43,133,135,136],{"id":134},"falling-and-proskyneō","Falling and ",[38,137,138],{},"Proskyneō",[30,140,141,142,144,145,147],{},"Falling before someone and ",[38,143,40],{}," are related actions, but they do not make the same semantic claim. Falling or prostration describes posture; ",[38,146,40],{}," describes an act of obeisance whose force is supplied by its context. It can express worship of God, but it can also express homage to a human superior. The terms therefore cannot by themselves define the recipient as God.",[30,149,150,151,155,156,158,159,163,164,166,167,171,172,174],{},"For example, the servant in ",[23,152,154],{"className":153,"dataReference":154},[26],"Matthew 18:26"," falls down and ",[38,157,40],{}," before his human king. ",[23,160,162],{"className":161,"dataReference":162},[26],"Revelation 3:9"," speaks of opponents coming to bow down, ",[38,165,40],{},", before the feet of the Philadelphian believers. In ",[23,168,170],{"className":169,"dataReference":170},[26],"Acts 10:25-26",", Cornelius falls at Peter's feet and ",[38,173,40],{},", but Peter raises him and says that he too is a man. These examples do not mean that every occurrence has the same force. They show why the word must be read in its immediate setting rather than treated as a lexical proof of divinity.",[30,176,177,178,181,182,184,185,188],{},"In ",[23,179,93],{"className":180,"dataReference":93},[26],", the grammar does not explicitly name the Lamb alone as the object of ",[38,183,40],{},". The verse says that the elders fell and worshipped, while ",[23,186,27],{"className":187,"dataReference":27},[26]," has just named both the one seated on the throne and the Lamb as recipients of the song. The object is therefore understood from the scene. A Trinitarian may interpret this as joint worship of the Father and the Lamb; a non-Trinitarian may interpret it as a response to the throne-sitter, or to the scene's shared honour. Grammar alone does not decide between these interpretations.",[43,190,192],{"id":191},"non-trinitarian-reading","Non-Trinitarian Reading",[30,194,195],{},"A non-Trinitarian reading gives full weight to the Lamb's heavenly honour but distinguishes him from the one seated on the throne. The Lamb receives the scroll, not because he is the throne-sitter, but because he was slain and is declared worthy in the vision.",[30,197,198,201,202,206,207,209],{},[23,199,75],{"className":200,"dataReference":75},[26],"–5, 7:11, 19:10, and 22:8-9 distinguish God, the Lamb, angels, and servants. ",[23,203,205],{"className":204,"dataReference":205},[26],"Revelation 22:16"," identifies Jesus as a closing speaker but does not by itself resolve 22:13 or identify the Lamb as God Almighty in chapter 5. Shared honour, song, and ",[38,208,40],{}," can support a high Christology, but they do not logically or lexically prove that Jesus is God. The distinction between the throne-sitter and the Lamb requires interpretation; it is not an identity definition.",[43,211,213],{"id":212},"conclusion","Conclusion",[30,215,216,217,222,223,226,227,231,232,236,237,239],{},"The ",[218,219,221],"a",{"href":220},"#trinitarian-reading","Trinitarian reading"," reasonably treats ",[23,224,75],{"className":225,"dataReference":75},[26],"–5 as a joint worship scene, while the ",[218,228,230],{"href":229},"#falling-and-proskyne%C5%8D","lexical and grammatical evidence"," leaves its object and theological implication to context. 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